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Illidge help wanted.

John and Hannah Bailey are the parents of Thomas Illidge who married Harriet Muckleston and whose descendants appeared to have populated half of Australia! A researcher who is married to one of this couples descendants, currently living in Canada, is looking for help in developing her research and would be grateful for any help that other people interested in this family could give her.

She explains:

Re parents:  I am confident that  John was a tailor and died in Newcastle under Lyme in Feb 1805 as in the burial record, birth  inferred as 1744 but I am thinking record of baptism, Codsall, Staffordshire,  for Feb 1744,  to be him.   Hannah I know died in 1804.    Birth date of 1745 is inferred from her death info.    There is a baptism in Newcastle under Lyme for a Hannah Bailey for June 1746.   May be her.   Her brother Thomas Bailey’s death is sourced as 1828 and from his age at that time it appears birth to be 1753 but I have no source.  I know some about him.  Also a London glass manufacturer and  Staffordshire warehouseman – quite successful I do believe.    The Bailey family is otherwise a complete mystery Looks like marriage of John and Hannah was  1771 in Bucknal cum Bagnal, both of Stoke.    They are  my husband’s 3rd great grandparents through John Illidge, 4th child,  on the list, whose daughter, Ellen, married Owen Gray, my husband’s great grandfather.  


I have gathered what I can from Ancestry and known online sources.  I like to have proper sources and do not trust others’ trees unless there are proper sources.   I have enjoyed the work I have done on the siblings – very interesting people.    There is more to learn there for sure.    George has been very interesting as up until 10 days ago I did not know what took George to the West Indies.  A descendant has just found a letter from him dated 1794 stating that the uncle he was helping there had died.    Of course, this now begs the question of who the uncle was.   


Mary's notes follow - if you can help please use the contact us page.

Children of John and Hannah (Bailey) Illidge

                                                                                                        Dated 20/02/16   Work in Progress by Mary M. Gray



Thomas Illidge (1771- 1847):  Born in Newcastle under Lyme, Staffordshire.   Died and was buried in London.  He was a glass manufacturer and glass engraver and etcher in London.  A descendant, speaking in the online website Muckleston Family History Group - Illidge connection, has said that he was a well-educated man who was conversant in Greek and Hebrew with a ‘dash of shorthand’.  Also that a some point he was a magistrate of London. He married twice:  Mildred Byrne and Harriet Muckleston. He was probably in London by the time he was twenty as he married Mildred there in 1791.  Both wives bore him children.  After Thomas died Harriet immigrated to Australia and many children went with her.  There is a rich family history online from the Australian descendants and a picture of him has been posted in Ancestry.

George Illidge (1773-1854):  Born in Newcastle under Lyme, Staffordshire.  Died on St Martin Island, West Indies.   Around age 17 he went to the West Indies.  A recent letter found in a descendant’s family papers reveals that he went there to live with and help an Uncle who had plantations and slaves.    He returned to London in 1804 to visit his family as per a newspaper account of his mother’s death.  On St Martin he lived in Philipsburg, founded in 1763 and the capital and commercial centre and there he was a merchant and a member of the Council of Policy and referred to as the Honorable George Illidge.   Slavery was not abolished there until the mid- 1800s.  I am surmising George may have owned slaves and may have had children by slaves.   There is reference online that he had a least 2 children:  George, junior, of which I know nothing except that he was white, and a London Illidge, descendants of whom are black. The Illidge name carries on there to this day.   It appears that he supported Methodist missions, receiving money from England and on one occasion from his maternal uncle Thomas Bailey’s will (owner of Bethel House, Brixton).  In 1854 George’s death was announced in the Staffordshire Sentinel.   A family archive portrait of him at age 17, it is said, is posted on Ancestry.

William Illidge (1775-1857): Born in Newcastle under Lyme, Staffordshire. Married Ann Winstanley there in 1807.   They had at least 5 children, one of whom, Richard Illidge, was convicted of a theft in the town and sent to Australia where he eventually was pardoned.  Richard has descendants there who have written about his life.  Like his father John, William was a tailor in the town and lived there all of his life.   

John Illidge (1778 -1846): He was born in Newcastle under Lyme, Staffordshire.   Joined the Dyers Company in 1810 in London at age 32.   Married Mary Ann Betts in 1812.  She was 22, he 34.   They subsequently had 10 children, 3 dying young.  He was noted as a London stockbroker in 1813 but probably was in this occupation before that.  I also think that he may have been involved in glass manufacturing with his maternal uncle, Thomas Bailey, who was a London glass manufacturer and Staffordshire warehouseman; and/or possibly with his brother Thomas.  In 1819 when John was 41, with a wife and 4 children, his uncle Thomas Bailey sold him 2 homes on Acre Lane in Brixton collectively called the Cedars.    In 1834 he was elected Sheriff of London, sharing the post with another man who was a merchant tailor.  The term of Sheriff lasts a year.  Around this time, and perhaps before being elected Sheriff, he was granted a coat of arms.  He appears to have maintained his connection to Newcastle under Lyme, owning property in the core of the town. He also owned properties in and around Brixton and some in Rayleigh, Essex.  By the time he was 65 he was still a stockbroker with addresses in the City of London at the Bank Chambers and Stock Exchange.   He died at age 68 and was buried in Brixton.  There is a picture of John posted in Ancestry.  

Joseph Illidge (1779-1830)     He was born in Newcastle under Lyme, Staffordshire.  Died there at age 51.  Appears to have married Mary ? .  I know of only 2 children, so far.  A son died at age 13 when his father was already deceased and a daughter married a chemist.   More needs to be explored.

Catherine (Kitty) Illidge (1781-?)   She was born in Newcastle under Lyme, Staffordshire.   Death unknown at this point.  She married Humphrey Ratcliffe, china manufacturer and potter, Stoke upon Trent.  They had at least 4 children.   More needs to be explored.

Hannah IIlidge (1786-?)   She was born in Newcastle under Lyme, Staffordshire.   That is all I know so far.  May have died young.

Richard Bailey Illidge   (1788-1805)    He was born in Newcastle under Lyme, Staffordshire.   Was dead by the age of 17.